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<< What's Wrong with Dean's Internet "Grassroots" | Main | Stop Block Granting Medicaid >> July 06, 2003BTW I like DeanFor those who think I've been too hard on Dean and not appreciative enough of his grassroots energy, they should remember that I've had quite kind things to say about him. Back in January when most pundits were not taking him very seriously, I said he was seriously in contention. And I stressed his solid pro-labor credentials in that post. I like Dean and I'm glad Dean folks are being newly energized, but all I'm demanding is a little humility from his partisans about who he's energized so far and the breadth of outreach he still needs to do to claim leadership of a broad-based progressive movement.. Posted by Nathan at July 6, 2003 12:05 AM Related posts:
Trackback PingsTrackBack URL for this entry: CommentsOne thing not to like about Dean is that he is a Likud supporter who sees eye to eye with AIPAC and thinks Bush is being too soft on Iran. See: Dean Not Progressive on Mideast I must say that this was a major disappointment for me. I was coming to like Dean although I am much more of a Kucinich supporter. Posted by: Barry Freed at July 7, 2003 12:40 AM Dean has modified his pro-AIPAC stance somewhat. No candidate is perfect. Kucinich's pro-flag amendment vote really bothered me. But I could support either one. Posted by: Paleo at July 7, 2003 09:02 AM I support Dean although I don't agree with him on all of his positions. He demonstrates the political courage that I know that while I might not agree with him on everything I'm fairly sure he'll stick to the positions he's campaigned on once he's in the White House. Kucinich's flip-flop on abortion bothers me as lot. Even more so than his vote to impeach President Clinton. For those reasons (besides being purely unelectable) I cannot support Kucinich. Posted by: Lavoisier1794 at July 7, 2003 05:37 PM I don't see how organizing people over the net translates (without further evidence) into a That being said, Dean does need to broaden his Posted by: Andy English at July 7, 2003 09:11 PM The next big story in the campaign will be Wesley Clark getting in. His net roots support will ramp up very quickly. Posted by: KB at July 8, 2003 04:18 PM I must add that even though his postions on the Mideast take him down a notch in my eyes, I will, nevertheless, enthusiastically vote for Dean should he win the nomination. I might even give his campaign some money at that point. Same for all the others, anything to kick Bush out on his ass - except for Lieberman, in which case I'll either vote Green or stay home and drown my sorrows. Posted by: Barry Freed at July 8, 2003 07:13 PM Actually, Kucinich did not vote to impeach. He voted in support of a House impeachment inquiry. At the time, Kucinich stated that his rationale in so voting was to "let the president make his case. Give him a chance to clear his name and get back to the job." The story is a href="http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/10/08/defect/">here. btw, i support dean (not kucinich). but i think that it's fair to correct any mistaken beliefs about kucinich's voting record. Posted by: Cincinnatus C at July 9, 2003 01:37 AM WHy not vote for Kucinich? He is more progressive than Dean and took a more active roll than Dean against Bush's war. Posted by: Rick Vanden Heuvel at July 13, 2003 11:08 PM Could care less if Dean is a "pretend progressive." My one criteria is who can Beat Bush. To say Dean is "pro-gun" and "pro-death penalty" is to not pay attention to the issues. Dean is pro States rights on guns--namely bc New York's gun problems shouldn't necessarily dictate Vermont's gun policies. 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