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<< Machinists Denounce Ad They Funded | Main | Boycott Safeway! >> December 16, 20039th Circuit "Activism" on Medical Pot?When you deal with conflicts between state and federal law, what constitutes "judicial activism" becomes confusing. However the court rules, one group of elected officials will have their law overturned by judicial decision. The 9th Circuit has determined that federal drug laws don't apply to personal marijuana consumed for medical purposes. In the decision, regulating such personal consumption lies outside federal Commerce power. This is a narrow exception to the commerce power, since any commercial aspect of an activity will bring even consumption into commerce power regulation under this standard. Still, I'm against the decision-- as far as federal-state power conflicts, voters can decide through their national representatives how much power to give the national government. There is no reason for the federal courts to second guess the voters who elected the Congress on how best to establish this balance. Stopping medical pot is stupid-- but if we let judges strip the feds of power, we'll see abuses of individuals at the local level that the feds will also be incapable in stopping. Why should the national legislature trump the local? Partly because of the Madisonian idea that larger populations are more diverse and less likely to establish stable oppressions of minority views. Partly it's because we live in such an interconnected world with such a mobile population that a national referee makes the most sense. That doesn't mean that in practice the federal government should leave many decisions to the local, but that decision of how to allocate power and responsibility should be driven by national democratic debate. Posted by Nathan at December 16, 2003 09:20 PM Related posts:
Trackback PingsTrackBack URL for this entry: CommentsYou're putting the cart before the horse here. Just as it was foolish to encourage privatization in Russia before they had a functional market, so is it foolish to defer to our natinal governemnt until it becomes genuinely democratic. To make it genuinely democratic would involve at minimum the following 2 things: 1) Changing the rules in congress to give all representatives equal (or darn close to equal)power. In other words, no powerful committee chairpeople who can prevent legislation from being voted on. No filibusters by minorities. And absolutely no privileges derived from seniority. 2) Proportional representation, so that our votes all count, instead of most of us being gerrymandered into districts most of which have a virtually pre-determined outcome. and although the next two aren't structural things and aren't absolutely necessary, they sure would help: 3) Some sort of real campaign finance reform so that points of view aren't shouted down by the opposition 4) truly independent media from diverse sources, making elections more a contest of ideas and less propoganda Until we have these, let's not pretend that the federal government is some pure manifestation of the people's will that therefore deserves the automatic right to preempt states. Posted by: Kevin Block-Schwenk at December 16, 2003 11:37 PM -its only a preliminary injunction. -"voters can decide through their national representatives how much power to give the national government." no I cant. I live in California, my vote does shit in the senate, and not much more in the house. If a law passed in California does not effect people in Georgia, why should they have a say? And you forget there is an agency problem here. Any representative in the federal legislature has an incentive to create more power in that body, especially when they are the majority. And who passes the bills? the majority. It is extremely rare that people would cast their vote based upon how much power their congressmen wants to give to the states. -"There is no reason for the federal courts to second guess the voters who elected the Congress on how best to establish this balance." Or to get the most democratic of all: This law (Prop. 215) was passed by a referendum- dee-rect dee-mocracy for ya! much better than judges or legislatures, eh? I'm sure you want to protect people who happen to live in those evil states (maybe those down south, hum?) where the legislatures hurt the people that live there, "if we let judges strip the feds of power, we'll see abuses of individuals at the local level that the feds will also be incapable in stopping." I just don’t think a couple people growing their own marijuana will lead to too much trouble. Posted by: mrkmyr at December 17, 2003 04:10 AM In this case we have the state increasing liberty while the feds decrease it. Why shouldn't the state interest trump the federal interest? Contrast this with the last great increase in the scope of the commerce clause (1960's civil rights) whereby the feds increased liberty to extend antidiscrimination protection to private business. This contrasted with the states interest in giving its citizens the liberty to discriminate based on race. Balancing the federal interest in liberty of minorities against the state interest in liberty of the majority looks to be any easy call. With medical marijuana the balance is between the liberty to have access to health (life and liberty and a certain pursuit of happiness) versus the federal interest in incarceration (a pretty strong limit on liberty). The balance certainly ought to be in the state's favor to expand liberty (although it really is the state choosing not to restrict liberty). Keeping in mind this balancing of local vs. national power, how does this stip the feds of power to prevent abuses of inidividuals at the local level? Posted by: wolf at December 17, 2003 10:52 AM Because the example of Civil Rights shows that federal power is much more likely to protect minority rights over time. Look, I regularly document federal laws that are worse than state laws, yet preempt them. I don't like that politically, but in the long run, trusting to the democratic decisions of a diverse nation is far preferable than letting local homogenous populations have unchallengeable power to control the lives of minority populations. In this case, the local law is better-- so that should help illustrate why national policy should change. But the history of local censorship, segregation, and other issues shows this to be the exception, not the rule. So don't sign up for the "states rights bandwagon" because on one issue the states are a little bit ahead of federal decisions. Have a little democratic trust-- we'll be winning the medical pot fight on the national level very soon, is my bet. Posted by: Nathan at December 17, 2003 11:28 AM Far be it from me to sign up to the "states rights bandwagon". In fact, I am strongly opposed to that line of rhetoric and dishonesty by simplification. I'm more trying to point out the need, uses of, and historical foundation for using balancing tests by the judiciary, something which is usually ignored by those upset by any particular decision. Posted by: wolf at December 17, 2003 11:49 AM But my point is I don't believe that judges should get to "test" anyone, balanced or not. The people should establish the balance-- if they want local control of drug laws, they can vote to give that local control. And I'd rather have democratically elected federal legislators applying those tests, than unelected federal judges. Posted by: Nathan at December 17, 2003 12:03 PM I haven't read the decision yet, but it seems like they are applying the Lopez/Morrison standard as opposed to the Wikert standard. Perhaps conservatives should be careful what they wish for. Posted by: gfwesq at December 17, 2003 12:18 PM I haven't read the decision yet, but it seems like they are applying the Lopez/Morrison standard as opposed to the Wikert standard. Perhaps conservatives should be careful what they wish for. Posted by: gfwesq at December 17, 2003 12:18 PM Thurgood Marshall would have disagreed with you. And this doesn't mean he or I support unlimited or even more than a very small amount of deference to the judiciary. Posted by: wolf at December 17, 2003 12:28 PM I think gfwesq is right. They are just following SCOTUS precedent on the limits of the Commerce Power. I really don't understand you on this judicial activism issue, Nathan. The court has a job to do, too. I'm all in favor of courts showing restraint and not jumping headlong into controversial decisions against the will of the people as expressed through the legislature, but come on! You've got a SCOTUS that says the Commerce Power has been defined way too broadly, and it only goes so far. You've got a lower court that says, okay, personal consumption of marijuana doesn't meet the Morrison test. The job of the court is to take the legislation they've been given, compare it to the Consitution they've been given, applying the standards of Constitutional interpretation they've been given, and render a judgment. What would you have them do? Ignore all that and issue an opinion that says "No, better to keep out of it"? Posted by: Drew Vogel at December 17, 2003 02:08 PM In my opinion, this is just a very small check on a dangerous trend of destruction of the constitution by an out of control federal government. Considering the original intent of the constitution generally reserved police powers to the states, there has been a lot of movement toward federal police powers in more and more crimes to the point where the Commerce Clause (at least in terms of police powers) has begun to appear as much a joke as the 9th and 10th amendments. To go so far as to allow that the Federal Government has jurisdiction to send in armed agents to harrass people who are smoking a plant (for medical purposes with the full support and authority of their state and local government)... well the 9th Circuit reasonably recognized that the feds are being downright silly in this case, and placed the tiniest restriction as a reminder that the constitution has at least some limited importance. Posted by: Pete Guither at December 17, 2003 08:34 PM To whom it may concern, My name is Brandon Mercer. I am 22 years old, and I currently reside in the Wyoming State Hospital in Evanston, Wyoming. I came here voluntarily for reasons I will explain later. I have been here for over a year, and have been given every psych med in the book with no results. love and light, brandon Mercer Posted by: Brandon Mercer at May 14, 2004 01:05 PM Post a comment
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