I would first like to say Merry Christmas to all. Please enjoy your Christmas to its fullest, this could be our last if the "Progressive" Democrats get their way. As I am sure you already know, the ACLU has teamed up with the extreme liberal/socialist "progressive", (whew, I am out of breath just thinking about that title), Democrats to eliminate the mention of god or Christianity in our schools, courts and soon our stores and then ?churches? It seems the drugs have gotten to a handful of leftist attorneys brains and when they stared at the first amendment for, reportedly, 79 and a half straight hours, while on LSD they began to see clearly the words "Separation Of Church And State" right there just plain as day. Wow our silly forefathers just did not realize even as they wrote those letters back and forth to each other while deciding how to write the Constitution and Bill of rights, and discussed repeatedly, how utterly important it was that this country be grounded in a strong belief in god, they just did not realize that there words would appear differently to the……hmm, I am searching for a word, mentally challenged?, well yes but there is more….evil, yes that is getting better. Ok, I got it now, The "progressives". I wonder sometimes what planet they are from.

Which reminds me, what about that Genius, General Clark and his theory that we came not from god or even mud but rather, ALEINS. Wow I don’t know about you but I'm thinking that would explain "Progressives".

And what about those crazy actors with diarrhea of the mouth who keep saying the same things over and over about how we don’t have a right to defend ourselves and Bush went to war unilaterally and blah blah blah. Never mind that FACT that there are 60, sixty, that’s six times ten, other countries fighting with us. I have thought that these have got to be some of the dumbest people in the world but then I read a column by an actor turned writer who cleared it all up for me. She explained that in acting school students are told to imagine disregarding the side of their brain which is used for cognitive thought on the first day of class. As an actor, they were told, you must use, and think with, your feelings and emotions only. Ok I got it now, so like Mike Ferrell and Micheal Moore sound so stupid because they are only using half of their brain. Makes sense to me.

By the way

I read an article that claims that being liberal is good for the sole. I disagreed at first but then I remembered about the half brain thing and realized that he probably meant, Liberals are good for the soil. Ahhhhhh, Now I get it because they are biodegradable and all. Well, till next time, fight the good fight, (oops I said the G word), and always vote for the party of reality and then maybe we can save this country before it is too late.

P.S. Try not to run over any liberals, wink wink.

I read an article that claims that being liberal is good for the sole

It's true! Once I joined the ACLU, I said goodbye to plantar warts forever!

"And what about those crazy actors with diarrhea of the mouth who keep saying the same things over and over"

Oh - you mean people like Charleton Heston, Ronald Reagan, and Ahnuld?

Your ignorance stands out like a sore thumb.

Everyday that I wake up during the Bush regime I thank God for the American Civil Liberties Union. In fact, I will now get out my checkbook and send them a donation because of Spike's post.

Um, "Ahnuld" is an elected governor of the most populous state in the union. He's supposed to talk.

Charlton Heston is the head of a 4 million member-strong organization widely heralded as the most influential in politics. When he talks, politicians ignore him at their own peril.

Ronald Reagan has been retired since '88. He hasn't said a word (his nutty wife is another matter).

If you're going to be stupid J, maybe you could do it in private and not bother the rest of us? Just a suggestion.

Dominick:

That Schwarzenegger is an elected governor and 'supposed to talk' does not contradict J's claim that Arnold is one of 'those crazy actors with diarrhea of the mouth who keep saying the same things over and over'.

J did not disparage Arnold for speaking (clearly, he has a right, and now an obligation, to speak on occasion). He did so for Arnold speaking unwisely ('diarrhea of the mouth') and redundantly/repetitiously. So your Arnold comment is in no way a criticism of J's post.

You pointed out that the NRA has political sway, so politicians shouldn't ignore it (or Heston, by proxy). This has absolutely NO relevance to the question of whether Heston words are fecal in content, nor whether he says the same things over and over, and thus is in no way a criticism of J's post.

In response to your comment on Reagan's retirement, the obvious intended meaning is that *when Reagan spoke*, he was a crazy actor with diarrhea of the mouth who kept saying the same things over and over, not that he currently speaks to the public.

I imagine all that anti-left fanaticism can make it difficult to contain oneself, but try to think before you speak.

At least those "crazy actors" are able to use half of their brains. Most people never use close to 10% of theirs, and as for Spikey-boy, I'm not sure we're even in integer territory, percentage-wise.

If opposing W.'s War on Reason makes you crazy, count me as CERTIFIABLY INSANE!

Jeff, we should definitely remove your feeding tube - you show a definite lack of cognitive response.

You see, what Spike was originally referring to was actors who have no political connection opening their yaps, using a platform that no one else has to spout ill-informed political rhetoric.

Ah-nuld, Reagan, and Heston are all POLITICALLY RELEVANT individuals, two of which were popularly elected officials. When they speak, they do not speak in the role of actors, but in the position they now occupy (acting is/was a secondary role for all the individuals mentioned). In other words, when former Senator Fred Thompson speaks, even though he is an actor now (the reverse of the three individuals above), his words have more political relevance than, say, Madonna or Susan Sarandon. I, like 90% of the American public (conservative estimate) don't give a sweet damn what political advice Ed Asner or Rob Reiner has for me (and neither should you). This goes across idealogical bounds, so Ron Silver and Bruce Willis can shut the holes under their noses as well.

And by the way, if simply repeating things over and over is the only criteria for verbal diarrhea, than why aren't the likes of Waxman, Kennedy, or Hillary mentioned? Good Christ, if I hear one more Cassandra weeping about the destruction of the New Deal, I'm going to take a fire ax to my own cranium.

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Great. And what J was responding with were some actors with a political connection... spouting ill-informed political rhetoric. That last bit is the key point in J's claim, so, again, the fact that the three mentioned are (or were) involved in politics isn't a criticism of J's point - that their platforms on various issues are/were garbage.

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Again, irrelevant to J's point. That they attained a political office (or politically relevant office) does not negate the fact that they are (if they are) crazy, ill-informed, bile-spewing, broken-record-repetitious actors.

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First of all, you mean criterion. Criteria is plural.

Second, no one said or implied that repetition was the only criterion (or even *a* criterion) for verbal diarrhea. The diarrheal-tongue criticism and the repetition criticism are independent. Compare: "Dominick is a pedophile who plays golf daily." Does this imply playing golf is the 'only criteria [sic]' for pedophilia? Of course not. So, unsurprisingly, you are again making an irrelevant counterpoint against a straw man.

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We can only hope.

Cheers,
Jeff

The blogger parsed out some quotation characters and the encompassed text. The four quotations, in order, to be placed where the right angle brackets are seen, are as follows:

1) "You see, what Spike was originally referring to was actors who have no political connection opening their yaps, using a platform that no one else has to spout ill-informed political rhetoric."

2) "Ah-nuld, Reagan, and Heston are all POLITICALLY RELEVANT individuals, two of which were popularly elected officials."

3) "And by the way, if simply repeating things over and over is the only criteria for verbal diarrhea"

4) "Good Christ, if I hear one more Cassandra weeping about the destruction of the New Deal, I'm going to take a fire ax to my own cranium."

Are you suggesting I play golf? You sick punk, I'll throttle you.

What really gets my goat is guys who post lengthy and horribly cliched right-wing screeds in Nathan Newman's blog comments.
You really hit the liberals over the head with a two-by-four there boys...actors who are left-wing talk shit, no one's ever heard that one before. Really pushing the envelope on political rhetoric.
I guess when you haven't had a new idea since the McKinley administration, it beats saying nothing...

Dermot raises an issue-- I moderate with a pretty light hand, but am tempted to do so when folks go really off topic into screeds. This was a general link to Dean, so the screed was more acceptable than a more limited topic post, but it's always an open issue what to do with these open-ended harangues.