i disagree that bush did not lie.

if iraq had actually had wmd in usable condition bush would have never dared to attack iraq. the risks would have been to high. attacks by weapons of mass destruction could have been used against american troops causing politically unacceptable number of deaths. furthermore after the iraq's command and control infrastructure collpased (which happened almost immediately, much before US troops secured the country which arguably they still have not done) the wmd would have been in the hands low ranking officers who collectively would be very likely to either sell them to underground militant groups, use them against civillian targets e.g. attacking kuwait city or kurdish areas which could kill tens of thousand, misfiring them which could also kill tens of thousands or using them against US troops. if any of these things happened bush would be politically dead; he knows this which is why he will never attack a country like north korea or pakistan which have wmd in usable condition. it is likely that bush and company thought they would find a 12-year old chemical warhead in completely unusable condition which they could use to justify their claim but the wmd threat was a complete lie.

also, i would argue that the main reason why bush the first did not take out saddam hussein in the first gulf war was that back then he actually did have usable wmd.

Zero- My irony indicator obviously was too subtle on this post.

My point is that it's hard for Bush to claim to be a victim of bad intelligence when he and his administration were the ones pumping that bad information into his own government and into the media.

irony is not at all my thing

let me just say this: bush was not a victim of bad intelligence. he had very good intelligence indicating that iraq did not have wmd. of course if bush had said "we are safe to attack iraq now because it no longer has wmd in usable condition" every country hostile to the united states would have doubled its efforts to get wmd. instead by saying "we are invading iraq because they have wmd" he scared ignorant countries like libya, syria and iran into scrap their programs. north korea which is a much more educated country than the above mentioned is the only one who saw through america's lie and did the opposite.

That can only mean that Clinton lied as well. After all he also attacked Iraq on the basis of their WMD. I can only guess that the Un of all entities lied, they claimed that Iraq had 40,000 liters of anthrax. Heavens no not the UN lying!!
John Kerry the hero himself claimed that Iraq was a danger to the free world. But that was before he was a cantidade.

Did you know he is a Vietnam Veteran?